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My neighbor was over today and told me that horse slaughter was going to start soon. He mentioned the drought in the west and BLM land as the driving force behind the decision.

Has anyone heard anything like this????????????

God bless

Dris Abraham says 2017-09-07 10:06:00 (CST)

Mike the only stumbling block to resuming slaughter is the funding of the inspection process. Please remember when speaking of horse slaughter there are two different types; one for human consumption and one for rendering. Its an emotional and political hotbutton that sends folks over the edge.

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Dusty 4R says 2017-09-07 21:02:22 (CST)

I live in the west ( Idaho) and haven't heard anything about horse slaughter. There is no place in the states to do this, but horses are still going to Mexico and Canada. However, it is in Trumps budget to get rid of all the horses that are being fed by the government in feedlots, if it passes.
There is to be a big gather in Nevada to take another 1100 head of the desert range, and they also will go to feedlots.

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Klaus Karbaumer says 2017-09-07 21:07:26 (CST)

Mark, I wouldn't bet on that. There is a bill in the House ( I think H.R. 113) being re-submitted to make horse slaughter possible but to my knowledge there is strong resistance. Also, Congress, i.e. the part of it that wants to see government as small as possible, has repeatedly cut funds for packing plant supervision, so I doubt they will do anything to allow horse slaughter , with the consequence that the cruel and inhumane practice to send horses on long transports to Canadian and Mexican slaughter facilities and their killing methods will go on.
We have discussed this topic several times here and in one of the last RH magazines Dave Feltenberger wrote a pertinent article.

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Dusty 4R says 2017-09-08 09:10:05 (CST)

I might add, the government is spending 50 million a year to feed these horses in feedlots. And I hear many commercials a day about hunger. You simply cannot let the government run anything. The private sector is better.

Klaus, yes this may have been discussed before but this discussion needs to happen often, this is a huge issue as resources will deplete from water, feed, range etc.

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Klaus Karbaumer says 2017-09-08 11:07:15 (CST)

Mike, I apologize for not addressing you by your real name. Happened because when I wrote the response, I didn't see the original post.
Like everyone says it is a big issue, but as you all are aware we have to deal with much bigger issues as a nation right now and I am afraid the fate of horses will be put on the back-burner. With the large number of horses in the USA I wish there was a practice similar to the one in Germany when I still lived in Bavaria. A number of smaller private horse butcher facilities were spread all over the state which made it possible not to have to transport the horses so far. But that also is connected to a cultural difference, eating horse meat and especially horse sausage is much more accepted than here in the USA. In addition, after the big scandals in the late fifties and early sixties when hundreds of thousands of farm horses, made obsolete by tractors and the admonitions of American occupiers and advisors, were sent in open train cars through the Alps down to Italy, the German public opposed these transports vehemently. The humane treatment of animals within the EU is much more strictly regulated than here and last year there were huge protests when it was discovered that slaughter horse transports occurred from Poland into France, with Poland still having a large number of farm horses and France being a country where horse meat is consumed in large quantities.

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K.C. Fox says 2017-09-09 22:33:52 (CST)

nothing wrong with eating horse meat, not my favorite meat but it is good. about 30 years ago we had a 3 year old that broke his front leg and dad butchered him and we ate the rest of him. It was good

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Jonathan Shively says 2017-09-14 09:54:46 (CST)

I will agree that horse meat is good. Until horses are medicated for human consumption though, I would not eat an unknown horse. I think the medication issue is what has harmed our horse meat market across the ocean. For all of these poor dogs and cats that I see tv ads for, these extra horses would go a long ways towards easing that burden. As a horse owner, lover, I find it a terrible waste to have these horses on feedlots forever.

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vince mautino says 2017-09-18 20:37:44 (CST)

I believe the last attempt in 2016, the horse slaughter legislation was defeated. Not sure if it was in NM or not, but the USDA would not approve it.
Right now in Texas and a few other states, there are a lot of mules being advertised as kill pen mules ( I don't follow horse sales )by unscrupulous dealers. They buy them at so much a pound, usually not spending more than $200-$300 and the advertised them as kid broke sound mules for$700-$1500. Sometimes even a lot more.

A lot of folks have gotten fleeced good and many injured. I'm on the side of the fence to bring back USDA inspected slaughtered, but it's not going to happen any time soon

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Fort Causeway says 2017-09-23 21:20:00 (CST)

I would like to see one year feed budget of the BLM go to export all horses in holding to Russia, where the ecology can handle and will benefit from free roaming horses and burros. Then with freed up space in holding and consistent budget in the US, wild horse and burro populations on our western range lands can be reduced to manageable levels. IMO it becomes a simple matter of moving speciessuffering high ecological competition to alternate land base which would benefit from the introduction of ungulates. We have some Russian ecologists and land owners on board, and have offered the proposal to the BLM and our state representatives as a serious option to consider.

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Klaus Karbaumer says 2017-09-24 08:40:52 (CST)

Now, that's an interesting proposal, Kevin, if the transport (by ship, I suppose) can be don safely and humanely!
Great to hear from you, by the way.

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Klaus Karbaumer says 2017-09-24 19:36:14 (CST)

"..can be done.." Can't stand it when something like that slips through!

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