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Posted by Vince Mautino at 2014-11-15 10:08:54
Uncle Joe. Most of the time when I try to post something, I type it all in, hit send, and then get this message.

Rural Heritage - Front Porch

Sorry you must reload and re-enter the form.

Use your browser back button to return to the posting form then reload the page.

I get so frustrated, I say the heck with it and I don't want to retype it. Once is bad enough for these old fingers.
Response by Uncle Joe at 2014-11-15 19:53:30
Sorry Vince. First I have heard of that. Anyone else have this problem?

Joe
Response by NoraWI at 2014-11-16 05:40:49
Not the same problem but... I have never been able to edit my posts because there appears no back button on the post response page. And if I remove the page to access the main page back button, then it goes back to wherever I had been before coming to Rural Heritage. Where is the *back button* that will take me back to edit?
Response by Uncle joe at 2014-11-16 06:22:03
The forum has no "edit" feature.

Joe
Response by lc at 2014-11-16 07:31:11
Vince, it may be a "time" thing. May be that your browser is "timing out". Seems like something like this has happened to me before. What you can do is after you have your message ready to send, if it takes some time to pen, is highlight your response, right click and copy it. If you do get that message reopen the response window and copy your response you have copied and send right away. Try this at least one time to see if it works for you. Yes, it is frustrating. Another thing you can do is type your response on a separate program such as wordpad, notepad (found in your accessories programs on your computer), then copy and paste into rural heritage response.
Response by Allan at 2014-11-16 08:05:48
I don't have any problems with the editing or sending. As long as I edit before sending I just backspace on the keyboard and make the corrections, once sent it is gone and shows up on the post.
Response by NoraWI at 2014-11-16 08:50:15
Joe, then what does this mean?

"Use your browser back button to return to the posting form then reload the page."

My suggestion for Vince before you troubleshoot his problem, when you have finished typing a post or reply, highlight it and save by hitting Control c. Then when you have performed the reloading of posting page maneuver, you can release what you had typed by hitting Control v. Your saved post will flow right into the Response blank. No more typing.
Response by Uncle Joe at 2014-11-16 09:26:59
Nora, I have no idea what that means. I didn't write it and am not sure in what dialog box or window that message shows up.

I know that I sometimes get two identical posts sent one after another with no difference and so I suppose that is from people "backing" up and sending again. I have never noticed a difference between the two posts and just delete one of them. In other words, there is no way to edit the post once it is "sent" (except by me) but I guess it may be possible for someone to resend the same post and edit it before resending. In which case I would need to be told that the second post replaces the first.

As far as editing goes, an option is to send me an email with the edit you would like made. If you send it right away after making the post, I will almost always see your email before aI put the post through so can make the edit.

I don't plan on troubleshooting Vince's issue with the forum. I just wanted to find out if anyone else had a problem with it. lc offers a good solution. (Thanks lc)

We have been working for nearly 5 years with a number of different developers (to migrate to a new site that will include a forum that will allow users to more easily post photos and movies and will also allow them to edit their posts. It will, however, require people to register themselves with the site so they can have permission to edit their own posts.

This transition should, hopefully, happen in January. It has been promised several times before and not happened. I don't want to release it until I can be confident it works. Too many people visit this site for the front porch to jeopardize it with an "upgrade" that doesn't yet work.

Please keep in mind, that the forum is not a "turn-key" message board system that is just plugged into the site. It is programmed from scratch. The original programming is over 10 years old. In that time, the programming protocols used by servers and browsers has evolved significantly. When a server is upgraded to a new version of one thing or another, some of the programming sometimes stops working. Every time something breaks on the site, I have to pay somebody to fix it. The things that break are usually related to the front porch, swap meet or teams for sale pages. The front porch and swap meet are free to post and read, and the teams for sale pages charges a very nominal ($20/year for non magazine subscribers) fee to sell as many horses, mules and oxen as the user wants and is free to everyone else to read.

So what I am saying is that for now, the front porch works fine for most people most of the time. I still hear from a select few disgruntled people who tell me they like nothing about it. (Yet, they must read it in order to chime in whenever the front porch comes up as a topic.) If it requires someone to use a workaround to make something work, (like lc suggested to Vince), I hope they don't mind doing that workaround. For the most part, it works okay. I hear from people all over the country wherever I go that they read the porch almost every day (and never post) and they get a lot of good information from it as well as some entertainment. It takes up a good bit of my time every day managing it, fixing problems, and making sure it is doing what it is supposed to do. I am glad to do it. But...people also need to remember that it is free and that you usually get what you pay for.

Joe
Response by Dale Wagner at 2014-11-16 09:51:52
Everytime I type a long answer to a post, my dailup blinks and I lose it. So sometimes I don't answer if someone else gives about the same as I would have after I have a cup of coffee and get over my mad.
Wish I had never found this forum sometimes as dailups can be irratating.
Response by Vince Mautino at 2014-11-16 11:10:02
He He. It just happened with this post.

I have been doing what LC suggest of Copy them paste if I have to. Seems I forget to do it at times though. Might be my machine. No way am I disgruntled though. This is one of my favorite sites. I 'm too old to do much harness work now, and I sold my harness mules awhile back. Sometimes if my memory is working I can give some thoughts on subjects, but mostly I live vicariously thru others doing it now.

Thanks for this site Uncle Joe
Response by Uncle Joe at 2014-11-16 12:29:58
Vince, as I hope I have told you in the past, I am grateful to have you on the front porch. You consistently provide such helpful advice, particularly for newbies with mules, and with people getting a new mule and ill-advisedly wanting to rush their relationship with that animal. I regularly tell people to go to the archives and read your posts.

Joe
Response by Kate V(Va) at 2014-11-16 15:29:14
I have had no problems recently.

Thanks Uncle Joe.
Response by Kate V(Va) at 2014-11-16 15:32:05
About the Browser Back Button.....that could mean the back arrow, above the window that is open for the Porch. NOT a part of the porch. Its kind of in a tool-bar above the wondow with the porch or any other website. There are 2 green arrows, pointing in opposite positions, a red X, a yellow circle arrow and a house (to go back to home page)
Response by Klaus Karbaumer at 2014-11-16 18:49:19
I do consider the Front Porch a great and invaluable service and am extremely grateful for it. Except for a few days during the growing season when we extremely busy days I read it every day, oftentimes even post things, as you well know.
I did have some difficulties for a few days to pull it up, but could resolve that when I informed our cable company or Microsoft, I do not remember.
Response by NoraWI at 2014-11-17 20:02:14
Don't misunderstand me, Joe, I am very grateful for the Porch and the way you run it. I just thought that I was somehow not finding the "back button" that would allow me to correct something once my post was sent.

I have been on the Porch well beyond my actual hands-on driving of horses. At almost 74 years of age, I am trying my best to simplify what I do on this farm but it does not include disposing of my now older critters. Our oldest son is planning to move here by next summer and I am looking forward to maybe doing some of the things again... or at least watching him at it. He will definitely be a Porch regular as this is one of the best sources of information available.
Response by Uncle Joe at 2014-11-17 20:40:35
And I always look forward to your posts, Nora.

Joe
Response by Felt at 2014-11-17 21:11:20
I never understood the problem being described. Seems like editing your post after you have posted it is a little like changing your aim point after pulling the trigger.
I enjoy this site. I used to post a lot more than I do. I have found, just like Dale, that if I just wait a little while, usually 1 day, someone else posts about the same answer I would have. It is usually posted in a great deal more articulate manner than I would have and is usually more entertaining and enlightening than mine would have been. That is almost always the case when the author is Dale Wagner.
Response by SD-WestRiver at 2014-11-18 12:25:52
With Thanksgiving drawing near, I want to tell you Uncle Joe, and everybody who posts here, how THANKFUL I am for the Porch. I know it takes a lot of time for you, Uncle Joe and bless you for doing it. We get so much useful info and a bunch of just plain entertainment and good insight into real country folks. Thanks all.

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